What is fundamentally wrong with KDE 4?

Question

I ask this as I know nine people who prefer KDE to GNOME. None of them like KDE 4 to the extent that seven of them have reverted back to using KDE 3

So where did KDE 4 go wrong. Its no good me drawing any opinions as my preference is GNOME.

LUg.

Answer 1

Thank You!

I keep reading how great KDE4 is and how it is better now for having been updated to 4.1 and 4.2. I don't know where gnome is said to come out on top (no offense to the above) because the reviews I come across think 4.1 and 4.2 are great [for windows migrators (esp.)]

It's pants! I keep trying it too when I re-install.

It is a shame because I want the KDE apps that I like and most have glitches when used in gnome. (I used KDE3.5 and gnome with Mandriva seamlessly, I remember, so maybe that is worth a shot)

The good thing is that I'm getting there with (almost) only gnome apps. I want a split-view file manager/browser but I'm past wanting kompozer and kdelevop.

The bad thing is that all this increases the learning curve and confusion. It isn't the cohesion and integration the community is about (IMO) and I want migrates to ditch proprietary software. I appreciate professionals may like Photoshop for the moment but there really aren't many other areas that F/OSS can't compete.



'Fundamentally'

I think that what went wrong is that the widgets are too few.



Battery, weather and CPU meters and a clock. My clock is 23x40px. It is where I can see it (except when I choose for a movie, say) not behind a window.

The desktop can't be bare (as I keep mine between projects)



If you wanted all that there is google gadgets, docked or not, the sidebar on autohide or not - for which some gadgets don't function, I know - and gnome-do (with or without the dock), other docking tools where files as well as apps can be placed. These things aren't behind a window - with the KDE plasmoids you need 'show the desktop' to monitor the CPU meter!

Lastly, that bottom panel is ridiculously ungainly. It and the plasmoids are too big and don't reduce in size well enough.

Answer 2

Loss of functionality and MEMORY. KDE and Gnome are BOTH bloated these days. Windows is an abomination but neither "establishment" desktop is far short.



An example: since Debian upgraded KDE (I'm on testing anyhow so this is no surprise) and kdm broke, I've still had ark as the default application for unzipping files. So if my sister wants to send me four megabytes of photos of her grandson on gmail (so I can show our mother who'd rather see photos of her granddaughers) then I open them with ark automatically as I used to, but instead of defaulting to the last directory I saved to which, given Lynn would be Nate after her Dear Leader, it defaults to either my Home directory or the Downloads directory. And so far I have spent about eight hours trying to hunt for a preferences in the new Ark because I don't want to have to deal with xarchiver on that machine (KDE doesn't work but XFCE4 does -- I mostly run KDE4 on Fedora Live CDs and individual packages on Debian). I watched the new Harry Potter Trailer last night. It was an mkv file which worked perfectly after I closed ALL my KDE applications. It wouldn't even LOAD until they were gone. KDE=Vista.

Answer 3

The biggest things that about KDE 4 is the widgets and the loss of functionality like being able to save and restore a session. I also don't care for the kickoff menu style at all. The KDE apps I love but they're losing their way with the desktop.

Answer 4

I must point out that you know me and I prefer KDE 4 ;)



I don't find anything really wrong with it, except where some features are unfinished. I even have it running well on a couple of old, office-oriented laptops. I just had to switch off compositing, which is no real loss.



On my PC, which I built earlier this year, I have it running with my favourite compositing features enabled (except when I want to watch videos, due to imperfections in the ATI driver).



I love the new approach to the desktop, as does my fiancée. In fact, her desktop under KDE 4 in no way resembles the desktops we're used to, except for the task manager. Everything else she has customised to look completely different.

Answer 5

I don't really know the answer to the question, but I would ask the back trackers, it's just like you liking byril to compiz everybody to their own. over the passed few days I have found some interesting Linux websites that give tutorials on KDE 4 and Gnome 2,4 plus reports on both and Gnome seems to come out on top by a nose

Answer 6

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