Question:
Why do many people feel it is acceptable to download pirate movies, music, software etc.?
Linux Mint 11
2008-07-21 08:33:09 UTC
Particularly relating to software as if open source were used there would be no breaking of the law.

I have often wondered why people feel it is acceptable to steal, something that surely can never be justified.
Thirteen answers:
GεεK
2008-07-21 10:03:01 UTC
I completely agree with you. There are not many things that are free in this world, so even though it is illegal, some people are going to try to justify it. Anything that benefits someone, whether it is right or wrong, some people will always try to justify it. Just think about something that you have seen that would benefit you, and you could get it for free, wouldn't you want it? The big problem with computers on the internet is that people think of a computer as a shield, they don't have to look at or deal with the person they are steeling from or copy writing from. Also, I think the lack of knowledge of how copy writing laws work, is another reason why people pirate movies, music, software etc.
freebsd-unix.sg
2008-07-21 21:34:12 UTC
Steal?

I feel it cannot be put it that way

Knowledge is a thing to be shared

They simple made copies and sold them at exorbit prices

It is not an object with limited amount that can be shared

You should have seen how many people 'cheated' this rule

Sometimes what could be patent and what cannot be patent is subjective people have used such laws for exploitation

They first applied for patent for a product not invented then wait for some one to make it and sue them for infringement

I think knowledge based economy is not well thought out and well managed it should not be marketed at a physical product prices and should be cheap as they do not exist physically and copies can be made with minimal effort

Can you imagine software companies sell their software over 100 dollars when they can reproduce the same software in less than a minute??

It takes even less effort to make something physical like a piece of RAM that cost 60 dollars so whats the justification for that price?

The price of software replication does not even cost 1 dollars on a CD medium !!??

That's almost daylight robbery

With such absurd pricing of course people succumb to piracy

And of course there are some people who enjoy breaking their their copy protections for a challenge just like a game of mastermind



Limewire is not piracy it is what you download that determines that
Astro
2008-07-21 09:50:46 UTC
This is a good question Lug, fraught with opinion. When you say stealing, I read that as infringement on a patent or whatever.. whcih can be applied to anything from an idea to a picture. Yes, there is a lot of 'stealing' as you refer to it going on across the web. However, you can't throw out the baby with the bath water. I download a lot of things, some are free domain. So, should we restrict downloading to punish those P2P peeps and punish legal DL'ers as well? I don't think so. When companies demand that Utube turn over the IPSs (rescended..) of people who just LOOKED at videos, thats going too far in my opinion. We have several district courts spread across this country where companies are in the business of making nothing, other than charges that someone is infringing upon their rights to an idea or concept. Like MSoft for example. I belive that actually have a patent applied for to prevent people from breathing air other than theirs... Patent laws bite. Yes, people should have some protection for their goods, services, and sych, but the concept that I can't play an E-C-G chord in a certain harmony, because someone has applied a patent to it $ucks. That I won't support. This issue is as senstive as gun control! LOL!
Jamie W
2008-07-21 08:48:51 UTC
Well, first of all its not stealing. And I am not saying I am an advocate of it, but do not buy into the story of it being a theft. It's not. It is illegal, but theft is not the crime, its copyright infringment. When people are getting prosecuted, its for infringement and not theft.



So while a person who would never consider stealing an item in real life, commits a crime like copyright infringement they might not feel its the same thing, or even understand what infringement is.



Another reason is people might feel its a victimless crime. Unlike theft, where when you take something, someone is missing something, when you download a copy of a movie or show, then no one is losing anything.



Another reason might be that they feel they own a version or are paying for it already, and thus its not a crime. If they want to download a movie as a backup to there dvd that they bought, or download a cd that they lost. Or heck, if they are paying for cable tv, and miss a show they wanted to see, well then its already paid for, and they shouldnt have to pay for it again.



Also, I know a lot of people who download things to try them out. If they like them, then they go and buy them, while, if not, they dont bother. I guess they figure that buying an item they might not have bought without trying it first makes up for the few items they tried but did not buy.



And then there are people who hate the RIAA and the MPAA and all the big industries because of the way they treat customers, assuming everyone is a thief, and so they might as well be one. I remember when CD's first came out and they were expensive, was because the industries said, hey this new process is expensive, as costs go down, so will cds. However the costs got extremely low, but the cds never went down in price. Netting the industry super high profit margins. And lots not forget the whole rootkit fiasco of sonys that went and harmed peoples computers just for listening to the cd.



People can justify it in many ways to make it seem like its not a crime, and some of the arguments I happen to agree with, like downloading something that isnt available in any other way, or getting a copy of a dvd because of the drm on yours causeign it not to play. And I also know a lot of people that have gotten so fed up over the extent of the massive greed of the industry that they dont want even deal with them anymore.



And I am sure I am missing some of the many reasons. In the end, I think its a big issue for the industry, and its not going to be laws and morality commericals that will put a stop to it. It will be for the content providers to figure out a new way to market and sell their products that will solve the issues.
A Mad White-Hatter
2008-07-21 08:40:05 UTC
Oh, there are times where it CAN be justified:



It is not considered stealing, and the artist wont lose anything IF:



1) You can't get the song/movie any other way (not in stores).



2) It's coming out, and is NOT a movie, and you are going to buy it as soon as it does anyway).



3) The ABSOLUTELY ONLY way you'd watch/listen that movie/song is if you got it for free. Otherwise, you would have just not bought it at all, then the Artist really isn't losing anything. He wasn't going to get a sale from you anyways.





NOW, I'm not saying that any of these are legal, but if you break it down, the artist isn't losing anything if you do it under those above circumstances, and DO NOT give it to anyone else.
anonymous
2008-07-21 08:42:55 UTC
I do not down load free movies or music, mainly b/c i only listen to music in the car, and i buy alot od dvd's.



but i fee people do it b/c when u see people like brad pitt who make a movie and get 20 million dollars for one pop, u think hey thats more then im going to make in 10 life times with a decent job. then the production companies make millions off the movie, and every one involoved in the movie makes money. So alot of people see it that, why not download the movies, 100's or people are getting rich while the everyday person is paying to make them rich.
The fiercest: Jenny
2008-07-21 08:37:20 UTC
I don't think anyone ever thinks stealing is "acceptable", even professional thieves. It's more of a question of whether they can get away with it easily, hence, probably why there is so much pirating; it's easy to get away with.
AdRiAnO
2008-07-21 08:42:07 UTC
Because they don't have money enough to buy an original movie, or software...

Or, because they are lazy to go to a shop and buy.
Jason K
2008-07-21 08:36:43 UTC
Well, I wouldn't say they feel it's "acceptable," I'd just say that it's free, and who doesn't like free stuff eh?
the answer guy
2008-07-21 08:35:43 UTC
not everyone does feel this way. I don't.



but to answer your question...

most people like getting something for nothing. Its their way of 'one upping' the corporate world.
taralone
2008-07-21 08:37:59 UTC
90% of it is kids that are too lazy to work for the money to buy the items. THey have no respect, morals or values now days... What a great future we have in store for us... :P
phatspeed7x
2008-07-21 08:53:18 UTC
Just don't talk about this on www.computerforum.com You will get in trouble.
ani4ani
2008-07-21 08:37:17 UTC
It doesn't really seem like stealing when you are taking from people that are already multi-millionaires -- does it?


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