Question:
KDE4 not usable yet?
2008-06-23 10:20:20 UTC
At least that's what I feel.

I am getting lots of crashes. Applications crashing most frequently are Knotify and plasma. I got the updates but they don't seem to fix anything.

After plasma crashed:
http://i29.tinypic.com/r7szmx.png

Please don't take these screenshots to be an attempt at hurting Novell / open suse / KDE's fans. All software have bugs. The images just show I'm not joking

http://i28.tinypic.com/24wzh47.jpg

Also, I heard there is a dashboard in OS X too, but I don't know what's the real use of it. When I click "show dashboard", all it does is hide the panel at the bottom?
http://i27.tinypic.com/20j02ma.jpg

What can I do now, short of installing the Gnome version? Can I downgrade to KDE 3?
Five answers:
2008-06-23 10:32:51 UTC
Hi, u have only stated 3 things:



1. a known bug and only occurs on few machines, this is an upstream bug and not openSUSE's fault and openSUSE devs r themselves working on it to fix it.



2. Another upstream bug that has been fixed in kde 4.1 and is being back ported to 4.0 by Novell and back porting takes time.



3. The dash board isn't a bug, this is a feature thats still in development so its supposed to be like this.



They couldn't fix all of them but many have been fixed for example opensuse's konqueror in kde4 is the only kde distro which has got flash to work on konqueror and thats a feature Novell added themselves cause the upstream konqueror doesn't support flash yet.



Both these problems u complained r of r known and a fix should be release. Gnome is very stable and only has one issue with pulse audio that is being worked on right now and kde 3.5.9 is 100% stable so I suggest either stay with kde 4 for now cause it WILL get fixed, don't worry or go to kde 3.5.9 cause its awesome as well.



Trust me, their kde 4 is the best, I tried Fedora and it would crash and restart xserver every hour and kubuntu. well u know how kubuntu is.



You might have found that many bugs have actually been fixed and this problem about the panel is that kde 4 doesn't support moving plasma applets on the panel, this is a back ported feature and isn't working well cause it was supposed to be for kde 4.1.x but isn't working 100% correctly on 4.0.4.



Edit



To go back to the default setup for now rename the .kde4 directory, its a hidden file and u can rename it to .kde4old
Astro
2008-06-23 11:32:29 UTC
Been doing some reading on this- as the KD4 arrived full of promise. Have seen some bug reports, but as Snake stated, (try saying that fast 3 times...) it'll all get sorted out in some fixes. Quickly, I presume- This is the showcase for the rest of the years releases. I've been playing more w/ KDE3/4 on some distros to give Gnome a break. Although I DO like the PcLOS version of it- The release of 4 will hopefully inspire the Gnome developers to 'step it up' a bit, and present some 'omph. Hafta see.
Linux Mint 11
2008-06-23 12:43:21 UTC
Its unfortunate you've had a poor start with KDE 4, as I have found it to be a revolution in the desktop environment and have had no problems.



When anything new is released there are always going to be unforeseen issues, whether it be Vista, Firefox 3, KDE 4 , Ubuntu 8.04, OpenSUSE 11.0, Linux Mint 5.0 etc.



However good the initial system whatever it may be is there will ALWAYS be bugs.



My advice use something else for the moment, whilst any critical bugs are fixed.



LUg.
2008-06-23 10:27:12 UTC
i did run into the taskbar problem with k4 (in fedora 9) partly because i upgraded from a stripped down fedora 8 but took care of it by right clicking on the task bar and going to add icon (or something... i'm using gnome right now mainly for foreign language problems) and then click on task bar



you could also try loging in as root, then delete the user & files and recreate the user. don't know how well that will work as i use fedora but linux seems similar across the board
Jazz
2008-06-23 15:50:37 UTC
Dont know about this honestly


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