Question:
Does Apple have the right to complain?
2008-01-07 11:55:19 UTC
A lot of people say "Vista stole ideas from OS X" but who cares? They didn't steal any source code or anything. And correct me if I' wrong, but isn't OS X based on an open source kernel? Who's stealing now?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N-2C2gb6ws8
Eleven answers:
inclusive_disjunction
2008-01-07 13:26:03 UTC
Since Apple likes to lump "Windows" and "PCs" together as the same thing, allow me to list the things that Apple has "stolen" from PCs:



PCI - PCI was first released in 1993. Apple adopted it in 1995.



IDE - IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics) became an ANSI standard in 1994. Apple adopted it in 1998. Previously, they used a proprietary version of SCSI.



USB - USB was first released in 1995. Apple adopted it in 1998. Before that, they used Firewire.



x86 processors - "PCs", referring to computers that are binary/hardware compatible with the original IBM PC, have been using Intel-compatible processors since 1981. Apple announced a change to Intel processors in 2005, and all Macs had them by 2006. Previously, they used PowerPC processors, and before that, Motorola 68ks.



Apple: A history of innovatively playing "catch-up", and then claiming their hardware is the most "advanced."



And, since we were talking about what Microsoft stole from OS X, lets talk about what Apple MUST have copied, since Microsoft had it first:



Pre-emptive multi-tasking - In layman's terms, it means the operating system can run more than one task at once, and both programs can use resources to complete the task. Otherwise, one has to wait for the task with a higher priority to finish first before it can continue working. Windows has been able to do that since Windows 95. Macs have been unable to do that until Mac OS X Server, released in 1999.



Right-clicking - Windows has supported right-clicking since the very beginning. Macs did not support right-clicking officially until OS X. To this day, even though the operating system can support two or three-button mice, Apple still ships mice with only one button. If you mention this to a Mac user, they will say "Just buy a three-button mouse", and then continue to tell you how awesome their computers are.



Bundling Internet Explorer - Windows has bundled Internet Explorer since the first CD release of Windows 95. Here is a funny video of Steve Jobs kissing Microsofts' ***, praising Internet Explorer, in 1997.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY
2008-01-07 14:42:23 UTC
Hi, yeah Apple can't complain for anything. Its them who usually copies Microsoft, I remember Mac OS X 10.0 could even read a dvd. Also features like spaces in Leopard is all copied from Linux. They don't really have any ideas, they get ideas from others. As long as Apple acts superior they will never exceed more than 3% market share cause everyone hates pride.



Yeah I agree with u about their ads as well, I have a Macbook which my family uses now though, I can't leave Linux. I have started hating Macs because of those ads. First they insult every pc owner in the world, not only windows, did u see those about the power cords and stuff pc's use or about how most pcs don't come with a camera, they weren't only insulting Windows but all pc owners in fact. Now they expect people to switch to a Mac. Seriously, I have started hating Apple's method of working.
joe c
2008-01-07 12:02:53 UTC
The computer business has always been about "borrowing" ideas. The people that say "Vista stole ideas from OSX" are the same sad Mac users that can't deal with the popularity of PCs and Windows in general. IMO, its a major case of envy, despite the fact that Apple is putting out a very good and very successful product now, rather than talking up the product they support, they have to talk down the competitions product....



Its all kinda sad since Vista ain't all that great yet anyway....
danceismylife202
2008-01-07 12:00:07 UTC
I don't think they have the right to complain because Vista is similar but it is not the same thing. And both companies have to keep up with each other and they also have to keep up with the customer's demands and the new rising technology. If Windows makes the next move Apple will probably come out with something similar because they don't want to lose customers to them. And so Windows would do the same. Companies do this all the time. Like by my house Stop & Shop did a make over so Waldbaums had to re-do their store. Also with cell phone companies Apple comes out with the iPhone and so a couple other touch screen phones are released!!
dillxn
2008-01-07 12:04:45 UTC
I appreciate your concern on the topic. I use windows everyday, at my school, my job, and my home. But honestly, Apple is the company that was stolen from. I could give you an entire list of things Microsoft stole from Apple (idea wise). You are 100% correct that they didn't take any source code. I would like to state one of my favorite quotes, "If you cannot innovate, immitate. But it's never as good as the original". If you are looking to move to either system, I would definitely choose apple, as flexibility as well as stability is what they are known for. Now, if you are building a computer, then go with Windows. I hope this helps, and I wish you the best of luck.

Cheers,

-Dillon
Linux Mint 11
2008-01-07 17:27:07 UTC
Yep I think they have a point, but the undeniable fact is both are inferior to Linux.



So yes Microsoft did copy MAC.



The only difference is the MAC works.
2008-01-07 11:57:35 UTC
They have been stealing from eachother since 1984.
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2016-12-08 14:03:00 UTC
i hit upon it quite difficult to have faith which you in basic terms plugged it in and magically it fell aside. hundreds of thousands use iphones yet for some reason your telephone is the only one that does this.
2008-01-07 12:04:07 UTC
vista can be run on mac with a bootcamp software. whats there to complain about?
2008-01-07 12:06:39 UTC
hah a.. Thats a Great Video !:)
Kayla F
2008-01-07 11:59:07 UTC
who knoss...



all i do kno is vista rox!


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